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Geared up

20 Sep '08
Text: Srinivas Krishnan
Photos: Aman Chaudhry

The Scorpio goes automatic. How good is that?
Geared up

I am all for the automatic Scorpio. I know it's kind of jumping the gun, but there is a reason for it. If you have driven the manual Scorpio and keep your left hand on the gear lever — let's say while idling — the vibes that emerge from the lever can eventually disengage your arm from the socket. That too, accompanied by a vibrating sound that's nothing but your wristwatch trembling in fear. Now that does not happen in the new Scorpio 2.2 mHawk Automatic. Now you get what I mean? Of course, that's not reason enough to arrive at a decision on a car. Still, that's round one for the new Scorpio variant. Initially — even before getting behind the wheel — I thought that the automatic gearbox was completely needless, and would sap away the driveability of the mHawk. But I was in for a surprise.

You see, the 2.2 mHawk engine is quite a rorty power unit. With 120 bhp at 4000 rpm and 29.6 kgm of maximum torque developing between 1800 and 2800 rpm, it has quite an amount of oomph to propel the big SUV. Sure, Mahindra engineers are confident it can make more power, but for our applications, this was deemed enough (Psst, this new automatic gearbox can handle up to 34 kgm of torque). With a manual transmission, the mHawk is quite at home both in the city as well as on the highway. In second gear for instance, it feels it will last till kingdom come. Now with an automatic, that too, a six-speed unit, the Scorpio mHawk's nature has become even more friendly. With six gears to apportion the engine's output, the Scorpio Automatic is actually a better machine to drive. Yup.

 Though the tall gear lever takes some time to get used to and there is no indication in the instrument panel that tells you which gear mode you are in, it doesn't affect proceedings. That's because your left hand will develop enough ghost memory to shift without P, R, N, D or M flashing on the console. The reason why there is no display is because it has something to do with a unique CAN communication isolated to just the engine and the transmission. And according to Mahindra engineers, the cluster is not yet "CAN enabled." Anyway, it will be introduced in some time.

To test how driveable the automatic mHawk really is, I took it to some ridiculously crowded, narrow streets where even the pedestrian movement is stop-and-go. If that's no test of driveability in the city, I don't know what is. No problem. Stick it in D and keep crawling. If the automatic is sapping power from the engine, well it doesn't seem so. The car is perfectly calm in bumper-to-bumper traffic conditions and there is always torque readily available for filling that gap in the traffic before that huge concrete mixer does. Now that's a tribute not just to the new gearbox, but to the engine as well as turbo-lag is not that apparent and gobs of torque are available for you to tap in no time.

And once the traffic clears and you have some clear stretches, you can let the Scorpio automatic rip. The drivetrain doesn't seem to even pause for breath, as all that kgm and bhp help move the mass of the Scorpio effortlessly. The shifts between the gears are decently spaced, and that really makes it much more driveable than the manual version. You'll best appreciate this between traffic signals. Okay, the Australia-sourced gearbox may not be too high-tech, but somehow its industrial-spec nature goes well with the Scorpio and the mHawk motor. Remarkably, if you don't pay attention, you will never realise the gears shifting. Now that's again a strong benefit compared to the manual, which somehow jerks a bit no matter how smoothly you release the clutch.
In point of fact, the engineers at Mahindra were briefed that the driveability of the car should not suffer with the automatic tranny. So after several trials, the R&D team arrived at a suitable pedal mapping for our driving conditions and did the requisite changes in the ECM. Lo and behold, a Scorpio automatic that's at ease in day-to-day traffic. The automatic Scorpio has also been through evaluation for its new cooling system in Australia and Spain and has been through trials in Switzerland and South Africa as well. So now you know Mahindra is quite ambitious about this drivetrain. Will it find its way into the Ingenio MPV? Stupid question.

Put to the test, the Scorpio automatic widened our eyes with its performance. Inside the six second mark for the 0 to 60 dash and a little over 15 seconds to attain the century mark is pretty decent for an almost two-tonne SUV. But what surprised us is that when we got back to office to compare the timings with the manual mHawk — the automatic was substantially quicker! Now that's because the manual we tested was fresh off the assembly line and the engine had yet to loosen up. Still, there is no arguing that the automatic mHawk does not shrink from being quick.

 On the highway, the mHawk auto is a decent cruiser and you can keep at a steady 100-110 kph and munch all the kilometres that are keeping you from your destination. For overtaking trucks, you really don't need that M slot on the gear console, as the engine is torquey enough for you to simply press the throttle pedal and push forward. However, when it comes to the crunch, you can downshift to M which allows you to overtake that much more easily. The M function also allows for engine braking — useful if you want to tackle inclines and descents. The mHawk auto also features W (winter) mode for driving on slippery conditions, but that's only if you're crossing over to the Nubra valley in November. Speaking of which, Mahindra is NOT introducing a 4x4 mHawk auto!

The ride quality on this test vehicle was in fact better than that of our long-term mHawk. We have no idea why! The handling of the Scorpio is somewhat better now with the lighter mHawk engine up front, but its braking is still dicey. The pedal feel is not good while the brakes don't seem to exhibit any urgency. Thankfully it comes with ABS in the VLX version we tested, we strongly recommend that Mahindra offer ABS in other variants as well — at least as an option.
Okay, so what are the damages like for the Scorpio automatic? Though Mahindra is yet to launch the car and announce the price, we estimate it to be priced around Rs 11 to 11.5 lakh. It is not exactly cheap, but the benefits of the automatic, to me, nearly outweigh those of the manual – including fuel consumption. It makes the Scorpio somewhat more civilised and user-friendly. So don't blame me for jumping the gun.



Comments (13)

Scorpio

Posted by Vinoo Abraham on Sat, 20 September 2008 (permalink)
The scorpio started off as a value for money suv at 5.5 lakhs....now the value component left off when the price reached 7.5 lakhs...now the price is downright absurd....however the automatic is a boon and kudos to mahindra to bringing it wish hyundai and suzuki opened their eyes and brought automatics with diesels...wish Mahindra have cheaper variants to take the benefit of a diesel automatic to the masses....i hate having to press my clutch pedal in traffic....

Something Else Will Do

Posted by Motorbeam on Sun, 21 September 2008 (permalink)
I agree Abraham, the Scorpio is a higly overpriced machine. 11.5 Lacs for the auto version is like crazy, i rather get a GV for a bit more.

yuck

Posted by plasticdrastic on Mon, 22 September 2008 (permalink)
I'd like to see the look on the faces on the Mahindra bosses who are going to drive or be driven around any of those scorpios with the interiors looking like that. it looks like a Chinese made vending machine from 1986.

Good from far, far from good.

Posted by Vikram Rao on Tue, 23 September 2008 (permalink)
I dont understand why we do not finish a car 100 %. The interiors of Indian built cars and suvs are sub par. I live in America, and I dont think Mahindra has what it takes to sell cars here. Im sure the car performs reasonably well, but quality is woefully short of any International maker. Not impresses with either Tata or Mahindra.

Quality

Posted by Jeff on Tue, 23 September 2008 (permalink)
If you talk about quality of US companies like GM, Ford and Chrysler, these companies were there in US market for more than 100 years and the quality of many of their car was not good till recently. They were able to improve the quality of their cars only in the last five or ten year after Japan's and European companies started selling good quality cars in US and these companies were loosing the market share. The Indian car companies has a history of less than 20 years in making cars and how can you expect them to be world class in this short period of time when companies like GM and Ford took more than 100 years to reach there. They will come to the level in the next few years. Scorpio and Indica Vista is only a small step to produce good quality cars in the future.

Agree to Jeff's Comment

Posted by Sathish on Fri, 26 September 2008 (permalink)
I mean, yu have to give it to the Indian companies, Mahindra and tata has been upgrading their vehicles regularly. The Auto gear and the Vista are proof for that.

Hey Quality

Posted by sudheer on Fri, 26 September 2008 (permalink)
I dont agree with u Quality, it doesnt mean that we have to take next 80 years to improve our standards in industry, come on 15 years back hyundai is very cheap sub standard cars in USA, but now look at them, their sales were improved such a way they were in 4th position pushing Honda back to 5th position, look at the way they came up with recent model Genesis. there is always space for Improvement guys, we Indians can do anything, but the problem is with our attitudes.

standards of interior in indian cars

Posted by GANESH V V K on Fri, 03 October 2008 (permalink)
Absolutely good i too agree with the concepts of sudheer , i have been in singapore with lots of cars from toyota , honda , hyndai ,mercedes , BMW , the most important thing which matters is the interior .These cars got not only technology but also super finisheing both internally & externally too .I have seen some of our cars like scorpio & tata safari in singapore & malaysia i felt happy that we r competiting with the international markets & standards hope indian car manufacturers too try to reach the standards & keep it up in order to say neverthless of others

Quality

Posted by Sumon Kar on Sat, 04 October 2008 (permalink)
American cars are still horrible and build quality is still poor. Interiors are cheap and quality is poor. Recently they are developing some cars in Europe that has improved the drive quite a bit and cars developed in Europe are not that scared of cornering anymore. Funny when people suggest that it will take 100 years for India to make a quality car. People have nailed together world class supercars in their backyard and they did not need resources of big corporations to pull it off. Mahindra and Tata should stop developing their existing fleet. There are enuf mugs to buy them anyway and 5 years down the line shock us with a world class product with new looks. Quality control and attention to detail is important.

Quality.

Posted by Vikram Rao on Wed, 15 October 2008 (permalink)
Yes I agree with Jeff, Indian companies are pretty new....but the lessons are out there, first by the Americans, The Japanese and now the Koreans...all making fantastic cars. So why the need to go thru the learning curve when the technology and know how is out there. Maruti has Indian vendors for their products.....so why is it that Mahindra is still building shit, while Maruti interiors are far superior then that of Mahindra ? Or Mercedes for that matter using Indian vendors for interiors...its the same sorry story with Tata.

Quality vs.Reliability vs Reality in a Scorpio

Posted by Ghostrider on Tue, 21 October 2008 (permalink)
Do any of these whiners own a Scrpio? or have any of them driven one extensively? From a mechanical and electrical standpoint, the Scorp is very well engineered, I have driven 4WD versions extensively in the lower Himalayas and the Eastern Ghats. It has never let me or my friends down. (Mildly modified -Recaro seats, Brembo brakes, KN Filter)From an aesthetic point, you cannot please everybody, but the Scorp is primarily a Sports Utility Vehicle, meant to be driven off-road. If readers require a non-industrial look or a perfect ride - get a car. The Scorp is also not designed for poseurs who want the perfect Urban Assault Vehicle - for that - get a merc.G-Wagon. And the variety of idiots who have driven vehicles over the world - find a Crdi diesel with 115 HP/290 ft.lbs of torque for USD 21,000 (the price of a loaded Scorp). You will find none exist! Quit your fretting - strap up and enjoy the ride , auto or manual.

Mr

Posted by Rajan Baby on Tue, 03 February 2009 (permalink)
It is with excitement I have gone through the details of Mahindra Automatic. Let me first of all give an "APPLAUSE' to the MAHINDRA for a bold step in roading the automatic in a price range of 10-12 lacs for an SUV with six speed and associated technologies. Someone had to start with, and that is what the Mahindra did. Imagine, an SUV of this standards with other makes will cost not less than 18-20 lacs. One thing I still want to let the Mahindras note, to give more emphasis on the finish, both interior and exterior which is still to be in par with international standards. Well done Mahindra.

How does it fare after a while?

Posted by Anks on Sun, 15 March 2009 (permalink)
Great vehicle … loads of equipment … decent styling … competitive pricing. Looks good on paper and was alright when I drove it for a couple of kms or so. Need to know if any of you know any owners who have had it for some length of time. How does this automatic monster fare after a while? Am considering buying an SUV soon and this one is definitely on the top of the list. Don't want a sedan-like ride in the beginning and a tractor after 6 months !!!

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